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Hi nulled members
thank you for stopping by and reading this topic.
I've been writing JS bots for a couple of years now and most of them were for clients who wanted to automate bitcoin earnings through online gambling.
Well, here's my own experience and what is my conclusion when it comes to "Provably Fair" games:
If you take 5 min. and search over google for "YOURBTCGAME imacros script" you will find dozens of sites giving you free scripts that you can use to automate a game in your chosen website. The creator of that script (or the one who copied and pasted it) will assure you the script works (which, in many cases it does) but what they wont let you know (perhaps because they don't have a clue) is how the Provably Fair algorithm works in the background (or should I say: in the server).
Let me explain what Provably Fair is first: (Wikipedia paste) In online gambling provably fair describes an algorithm which can be analyzed and verified for fairness on the part of the service operator. Provably fair algorithms are often used in the operation of an online casino.
This means that before you play a game, the site will give a HASH which contains the answer to the final result of the game you are about to play. Awesome right! But before you ask "then why don't you hack the HASH, dummy?" let me tell you that most of the hashes found in online gambling games are SHA256 based which is pretty hard to crack if not impossible depending on the complexity of the result (salt, length, random string generation, etc)... believe me. I even created a rainbow table generation tool (google it) to try out and crack 1 HASH... it ran for 8 days and still didn't find half of the result for a 9 digits alpha-numeric string.
But this isn't about how this works and all the things you may already know if you compulsively tried to "hack the system" like I did. This is to show you what I figured when I played by the rules.
Most of my bots are only created to "automate" what someone would do normally in this king of websites: gambling. Sometimes I used random actions to imitate a real human, sometimes i even let the bot wait a certain period of time... even hours. But the closest I get to see some great results (win big) the hardest I crashed into the ground. But why? That is what sopped me from creating this bots and started to studying the provably fair algorithm and it is pretty simple to understand:
How I See The Provably Fair Algorithm: When you start playing a gambling game, the algorithm follows you along. It will throw you the result hash and everything is great. You win a couple of times and you also lose a couple of others, but most of the time you are going great because you are following that "amazing trick you found online and no one knows!" (like the martingale strategy... yes, I see you!).
But after some time you suddenly start to lose over and over again... holly crap how is this happening? well, simple: the algorithm is ether learning about your gambling actions (some simple AI programming, nothing fancy) or that strategy you are following is already scripted into it and will figured when you are using it and throw you away if it sees it in action. The chances are that if you found it on Google, it wont work at all since the owners of the gambling site are well aware of the "method" and will let the algorithm know by patching it.
A great example of an AI algorithm (and to show you that absolutely nothing is random... even if you are doing it) is the site satoshimines... take a look at how many times you could win before you loose in a one-mine-game. You may hit 15 times in a row... but that's enough times to let the algorithm figure (or at least guess) which grid you are going to play next... and it is pretty good at it, believe me.
And that is not the only online game I've tried...
In conclusion, the only way (or the most effective way) to get really far with this type of online games is to play by the rules until you figured how the script works. Maybe try to throw some well known methods to see if the site is patched against it (even tho the martingale strategy isn't good for anyone... I can still see you!). But you are the one that has to come up with the strategy/method/trick... after that, a bot can be made.
But remember that even if there are codes behind, gambling wont make you rich... the chances are you will lose everything if you get into it too much. Just have fun with it like I did turning gambling sites into test labs for scripts.
I hope I didn't take much of your time and that you learned a thing or two with this.
A good "like" to this post will be appreciate it.
Take good care and cheers!
Edited by spieldbergo, 17 October 2016 - 02:33 PM.
thank you for stopping by and reading this topic.
I've been writing JS bots for a couple of years now and most of them were for clients who wanted to automate bitcoin earnings through online gambling.
Well, here's my own experience and what is my conclusion when it comes to "Provably Fair" games:
If you take 5 min. and search over google for "YOURBTCGAME imacros script" you will find dozens of sites giving you free scripts that you can use to automate a game in your chosen website. The creator of that script (or the one who copied and pasted it) will assure you the script works (which, in many cases it does) but what they wont let you know (perhaps because they don't have a clue) is how the Provably Fair algorithm works in the background (or should I say: in the server).
Let me explain what Provably Fair is first: (Wikipedia paste) In online gambling provably fair describes an algorithm which can be analyzed and verified for fairness on the part of the service operator. Provably fair algorithms are often used in the operation of an online casino.
This means that before you play a game, the site will give a HASH which contains the answer to the final result of the game you are about to play. Awesome right! But before you ask "then why don't you hack the HASH, dummy?" let me tell you that most of the hashes found in online gambling games are SHA256 based which is pretty hard to crack if not impossible depending on the complexity of the result (salt, length, random string generation, etc)... believe me. I even created a rainbow table generation tool (google it) to try out and crack 1 HASH... it ran for 8 days and still didn't find half of the result for a 9 digits alpha-numeric string.
But this isn't about how this works and all the things you may already know if you compulsively tried to "hack the system" like I did. This is to show you what I figured when I played by the rules.
Most of my bots are only created to "automate" what someone would do normally in this king of websites: gambling. Sometimes I used random actions to imitate a real human, sometimes i even let the bot wait a certain period of time... even hours. But the closest I get to see some great results (win big) the hardest I crashed into the ground. But why? That is what sopped me from creating this bots and started to studying the provably fair algorithm and it is pretty simple to understand:
How I See The Provably Fair Algorithm: When you start playing a gambling game, the algorithm follows you along. It will throw you the result hash and everything is great. You win a couple of times and you also lose a couple of others, but most of the time you are going great because you are following that "amazing trick you found online and no one knows!" (like the martingale strategy... yes, I see you!).
But after some time you suddenly start to lose over and over again... holly crap how is this happening? well, simple: the algorithm is ether learning about your gambling actions (some simple AI programming, nothing fancy) or that strategy you are following is already scripted into it and will figured when you are using it and throw you away if it sees it in action. The chances are that if you found it on Google, it wont work at all since the owners of the gambling site are well aware of the "method" and will let the algorithm know by patching it.
A great example of an AI algorithm (and to show you that absolutely nothing is random... even if you are doing it) is the site satoshimines... take a look at how many times you could win before you loose in a one-mine-game. You may hit 15 times in a row... but that's enough times to let the algorithm figure (or at least guess) which grid you are going to play next... and it is pretty good at it, believe me.
And that is not the only online game I've tried...
In conclusion, the only way (or the most effective way) to get really far with this type of online games is to play by the rules until you figured how the script works. Maybe try to throw some well known methods to see if the site is patched against it (even tho the martingale strategy isn't good for anyone... I can still see you!). But you are the one that has to come up with the strategy/method/trick... after that, a bot can be made.
But remember that even if there are codes behind, gambling wont make you rich... the chances are you will lose everything if you get into it too much. Just have fun with it like I did turning gambling sites into test labs for scripts.
I hope I didn't take much of your time and that you learned a thing or two with this.
A good "like" to this post will be appreciate it.
Take good care and cheers!
Edited by spieldbergo, 17 October 2016 - 02:33 PM.